Main Useful Info So Far:
1)BACKUP THE UNIT DATA! Buy the PSU!! It eats batteries…
Any change I make to the unit, I copy the Roland folder to merge to the backup folder on the PC so all MP3 tracks and database changes are up to date if the SD card ever corrupts you wont lose all the uploads and FX changes you made, as you can reformat then copy the backup back to the unit. (Its a lot of work as you build up a track library with FX changes if you do it all on the unit only!)
2)You need to change to USB mode from STORAGE mode to use USB power. This change always requires a unit switch off/on after.
3)To keep FX Patches associated with individual songs, the PATCH SYNC option needs to be set to ON, so the write protect function in the eBand software needs to be set to OFF. You can Protect OFF all your imported MP3s in on go with Ctrl A (select all) then set the drop menu to OFF. Now you should be able to set separate guitar tones for each track by setting the PATCH SYNC number in the SONG EDIT menu, from the list below e.g P125 = TIGHT BASS. (I have kept the original Boss songs as is for now).
4) An OS bug fix update to V.106 is available here – READ the update instructions or destroy your unit!
5) You can multitrack in eBand mode with the record button! Just record 1 take to a backing track – this creates SONG000, which is saved into the eband SONGS list, so play again and record again over that song to get SONG001 etc…be conservative with the record level else the backing track will be drowned out. Good for trying solos or harmony ideas over parts etc. This is great for your own solo over the Jam Tracks backings for a showcase/demo etc. without having to use a DAW or spend time in MTR mode – really quick way to make a demo as a semi/pro for instance – you only need to export the track and convert to MP3 for an email in no time!
6) I bought a PSU for this unit and checked it with the DDM and it IS -9V (negative 9V) at the core so you should be able to use (AT YOUR OWN RISK!) any stabilised -9V stomp FX unit PSU – particularly a Boss one…?
I found USB powering a bit noisy but that could be down to the cable quality and your PC USB design, as I’m guessing most aren’t screened very well for audio use – an Apple should be though eh?
7) PROTECTING/UNPROTECTING A SONG OR AUDIO FILE
This is how you bounce out the locked Demo Song.
The process for protecting or unprotecting a song or audio file into the BR-80 will depend on the mode that you are operating in (i.e. MTR, eBand or LIVE REC). The following article will guide you through the appropriate steps for protecting or unprotecting a song or audio file in the BR-80:
1. Press the power button a number of times until “MTR” is illuminated on the BR-80.
2. Press the MENU button.
3. Turn the data dial to select “SONG” on the screen and then press ENTER.
4. Turn the data dial to select “SELECT” on the screen and then press ENTER.
5. Turn the data dial to select the song file that you would like to protect or unprotect and then press ENTER. The selected song will be loaded.
6. Press the MENU button.
7. Turn the data dial to select “SONG” on the screen and then press ENTER.
8. Turn the data dial to select “INFO” on the screen and then press ENTER.
9. Cursor down to select “PROTECT” and then turn the data dial to change the protection setting.
10. Press EXIT three times to return to the main screen.
Here is the Demo bounced from FLS at 256 kbps – good playing – listen in headphones to hear the FX details used:
After the first days jamming, day 2 is about learning the units functions and backing up the data that comes on the installed SD card.
Just to check the reverse process tentatively, I picked 1 track from the download site below, and checked it went to the unit without overwriting anything – note there is a Protect drop box to prevent this:
As you see the formats accepted are .WAV, AIF and MP3.
let’s get the Larry Carlton Room 335 in there to compare with FLS for ease of slowing down and A-B section looping…
It automatically named the file type, artist and folder source as this came from an iTunes folder. Just got to lock it now.
This software is really easy to use. Just a CD rip test to do now… has to be that other unlearned nemesis Sphere of Innocence from Wardenclyffe Tower by Allan Holdsworth…
You can download more tracks and licks examples here:
I want to know how to load more eBand songs and learn the MTR function asap, as I want to do a college project track using this unit alone, to see how well it stands up after using the on board Mastering functions to something done in FLS or Logic9.
First switch on of BR80, and stereo setup via the two input Carlsbro:
Very trebly default tone:
First jam to first patch (Blues Lead) and eBand backing track (Rock Bluesy Rock)
This gives an idea how lost you can get practicing – the stock chosen tones per loop are generally good without having to change or edit them. This lost audio sync in the editing somehow…
Metal Slow Rage Jam:
I finally got my first attempt at an Alex Hutchings track which came out quite well as I had no idea what I was doing (as usual!). I had to choose this patch (Stack Solo), as the default tone for imported tracks is a null clean tone:
BR80 Feel the Vibe Jam
Got a demo idea as far as the Mastering stage today – once you have mixed with the faders, panned etc. you set the Mastering levels and bounce it to the SD card as a .wav file by pressing the record/play button.
Here’s the 8 tracks (rhythm, 2 x copied bass, 3 rhythm guitars, 2 harmony guitars) after converted to MP3 in FLS:
Got more of an overall structure now, and used the track delete, copy and drop in functions and different rhythm loops to get to this version which is enough to know what’s possible with proper planning in future:
Metal Riff Structure.mp3